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#1 YzerFan19

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Posted December 21, 2011 - 08:35 PM

Lots of buzz today about how similar the Canucks and Red Wings are. Not sure how much I buy it but, hey, with a late game you have to fill the extra hours somehow.

Same lineup for Detroit again. Why not, it's been working. And it's not like they have a ton of other options right now.

I'm already exhausted and punchy, if this game sucks I'm going to bail. Putting that out there now.

Game time: 10:00 PM. Thank goodness for the extra half-hour we get by it not being a 10:30 game. TV is FSD.

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Posted December 21, 2011 - 10:26 PM

Ugly bit there. Higgins can almost be forgiven. Second goal? Ugh.

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Posted December 21, 2011 - 10:34 PM

Important goal, Wings couldn't go down 3-0. Love seeing Bert get one in Vancouver. Wings buzzing now.

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Posted December 21, 2011 - 10:36 PM

Great tip by Burrows. See if it kills Detroit's momentum.

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Posted December 21, 2011 - 11:28 PM

Hell of a shift to get the Wings back within one.

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Posted December 21, 2011 - 11:59 PM

Oh my god what just happened.

Feel the wrath of Howard. Damn, he reacted fast.

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Posted December 22, 2011 - 12:01 AM

Kronwall wrecked Kesler. Damn.

Bullsh*t that the fourth goal isn't being called back for incidental contact.

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Posted December 22, 2011 - 12:02 AM

Bullsh*t that the fourth goal isn't being called back for incidental contact.

I know I'm not as up to par as I could be on my hockey knowledge but I cannot see how that would be a good goal in any way at all and it's infuriating.

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Posted December 22, 2011 - 12:15 AM


Bullsh*t that the fourth goal isn't being called back for incidental contact.

I know I'm not as up to par as I could be on my hockey knowledge but I cannot see how that would be a good goal in any way at all and it's infuriating.


Murph seems to think that Zetterberg's contact with Hansen was enough to propel him into Howard....I, like you, disagree with Murph.

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Posted December 22, 2011 - 12:21 AM

Nevertheless, the Wings started this game as if they were skating in Jello.

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Posted December 22, 2011 - 01:10 AM

I'll try to keep my thoughts quick 'cause it's late enough as it is.

The Wings deserved to lose this one. Their defense sucked (by Detroit standards) and every Vancouver goal can be traced back to someone not doing their job.

This loss falls squarely on the Red Wings. I hope no one is ridiculous enough to try to blame the refs for it.

That said... I don't even know what to say about the third period sequence leading up to Alexander Edler's shorthanded goal for the Canucks.

Niklas Kronwall certainly left his feet to hit Ryan Kesler but the hit was in this awkward way such that Kronwall went rear-first into Kesler's chest. It was by no means a head shot, he targeted the body, he just did it with a lower part of his own body and left his feet to get that part high enough. I don't know why he'd hit like that, seems like a shoulder would be better. Maybe it's his interpretation of a hip check and the art is so lost that Kronner can't even do it right? So I call it clean but ugly.

I'm shocked that Kesler got a roughing penalty after the hit. I don't like that he tried to go after Kronwall for it (since the hit was relatively clean) but it seems like the officials typically let after the whistle junk like that go. I complain about it not being called all the time so I don't mind that it was called, but it's certainly not consistent with what we usually see.

Alexander Edler's shorthanded goal, Vancouver's fourth goal of the night. Yeah, that one.

We've seen time and time again that a goal can be wiped out for "incidental contact" (just ask Tomas Holmstrom about that one). If we say that Jannik Hansen was directed into Jimmy Howard by Henrik Zetterberg, that's where incidental contact comes in. Hansen couldn't stop, ran into Howard, not his fault, no goal. Instead, we have a Canucks goal scored with Howard being sat on. I honestly do not understand how one night that goal is allowed to stand and on another night the slightest contact at the edge of the crease wipes out a goal.

That's all I've got. No formal recap tonight, I'm going to bed.

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Posted December 22, 2011 - 04:38 PM

I honestly do not understand how one night that goal is allowed to stand and on another night the slightest contact at the edge of the crease wipes out a goal.


For the record, today we have this Tweet from this tweet from ESPN's Pierre LeBrun:

League's feeling is that Jimmy Howard didn't have a chance to make a save. Not worth a penalty to Van but should have been no goal.


"For the record" 'cause it's not like it does all that much good to get the call right 16 hours later.




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